Bag limits and live wells
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
There is no issue with the keeping and using of live baits within the bag limit rules. The issue was for 'high grading' still live fish from within a live well. The ONLY issues with the keeping of live baits is any you have not used, either need to be killed and kept or released back into the same body of water in which they were caught. Which who in their right mind releases perfectly good yakkas or squid or other when they make great dead baits for Gummies?
This discussion outside of the bream/bass comps with high grading has been a complete non issue
This discussion outside of the bream/bass comps with high grading has been a complete non issue
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
I know someone that would put live squid in a live tank till they got back to the ramp.purple5ive wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:22 pmmight not get booked slow trolling a livie, but if they found you with livies in the tank that could be a problem, i doubt people who do it now would stop doing it anyway.rb85 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:26 pm**** just break the **** ing law fisheries aren't going to book a bunch of people slow trolling live bait.purple5ive wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:07 pmSupposedly tou have to kill your catch or release them as soon as it is caught.
So keeping them alive is illegal...
Will have to investigate this further properly
will need to investigate it further, might not be illegal in the first place, but better to be careful.
Says they keep fresher then a eski
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
Luckily by purples pics he never catches that many lolrb85 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:35 pmWouldn't be worried Purple your allowed 40 mackerel 40 scad I only keep about 8 of each in my live tanks.purple5ive wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:22 pmmight not get booked slow trolling a livie, but if they found you with livies in the tank that could be a problem, i doubt people who do it now would stop doing it anyway.rb85 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:26 pm**** just break the **** ing law fisheries aren't going to book a bunch of people slow trolling live bait.purple5ive wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:07 pmSupposedly tou have to kill your catch or release them as soon as it is caught.
So keeping them alive is illegal...
Will have to investigate this further properly
will need to investigate it further, might not be illegal in the first place, but better to be careful.
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
Yep, thats what I reckon too - I have a livewell and I keep my squid alive in it until I return to the ramp. I have been checked by fisheries and it was a non issue for them as it was not even mentioned. That said, I would only be doing it with squid and or forage/bait fish. Although on a tecnicality its not legal the person I spoke to at fisheries did tell me that only one has ever been booked for it. They had 8 snapper to 4kg with their tails hanging out and were observed highgrading. All of the fisheries officers I have encountered have been pretty reasonable so I will keep doing it.rb85 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:26 pm**** just break the **** ing law fisheries aren't going to book a bunch of people slow trolling live bait.purple5ive wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:07 pmSupposedly tou have to kill your catch or release them as soon as it is caught.
So keeping them alive is illegal...
Will have to investigate this further properly
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
Omg does that my slimey tubes can not be used they are not 60 litres but keep slimies pumping all day greatest invention ever. Commonsense like applied by Cobby upgrading is the issue for the sake of the fish’s wellbeing. You are allowed to live bait as long as the fish is of a legal length.
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
Can you be charged with having them installed with the intent of using them
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
Never been inspected by Fisheries spoke to them at the ramp but they have never checked my catch. From what I understand unless your completely taking the **** they show a bit of discretion doubt they will pursue live rank rules unless your deliberately breaking the rules as in exceeding bags.
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
Good day all,
I don't know whether this will clarify or confuse things.
I emailed the following inquiry to Marc Ainsworth, Communications Manager at Vic Fisheries over the weekend.
"There is some confusion surrounding the subject of upgrading as set out in the guidelines. The question is, if legal size fish are caught and held for a time in a live well but subsequently released BEFORE THE BAG LIMIT HAS BEEN HELD - that is, before the bag limit is actually in the angler's possession, do those released fish still count towards the bag limit? I understand that it is not permissible to continue to catch after the bag limit has been reached even if some of the held fish are subsequently released."
Marc responded promptly this morning, as follows:
Hi Col,
If you have 4 trout in the live well then decide to release 1, you're left with 3. If an officer inspected your catch at that moment, your catch is 3 regardless of how many you've released and regardless of the numbers you've held then later released.
It's what you have in the boat at the time of inspection.
Does that help?
Marc.
This might be at odds with some previous advice but I suppose the bottom line is that an inspector can only count what you have in your possession anyway.
I don't know whether this will clarify or confuse things.
I emailed the following inquiry to Marc Ainsworth, Communications Manager at Vic Fisheries over the weekend.
"There is some confusion surrounding the subject of upgrading as set out in the guidelines. The question is, if legal size fish are caught and held for a time in a live well but subsequently released BEFORE THE BAG LIMIT HAS BEEN HELD - that is, before the bag limit is actually in the angler's possession, do those released fish still count towards the bag limit? I understand that it is not permissible to continue to catch after the bag limit has been reached even if some of the held fish are subsequently released."
Marc responded promptly this morning, as follows:
Hi Col,
If you have 4 trout in the live well then decide to release 1, you're left with 3. If an officer inspected your catch at that moment, your catch is 3 regardless of how many you've released and regardless of the numbers you've held then later released.
It's what you have in the boat at the time of inspection.
Does that help?
Marc.
This might be at odds with some previous advice but I suppose the bottom line is that an inspector can only count what you have in your possession anyway.
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Re: Bag limits and live wells
Going off that reply....
Having fish in a livewell is perfectly fine, and also comps that hold fish in a livewell are fine and not breaking any laws if the fish are within bag limits.
aka - 5 bream is 5 bream regardless of whether 15 more were caught during the tournament (so its never highrading as such, since the bag limit will never be reached during a comp)
Having fish in a livewell is perfectly fine, and also comps that hold fish in a livewell are fine and not breaking any laws if the fish are within bag limits.
aka - 5 bream is 5 bream regardless of whether 15 more were caught during the tournament (so its never highrading as such, since the bag limit will never be reached during a comp)