probably depends where the decline took place, and if there were any non-natives to take over. But yeah, I would expect that the fish that trout are currently eating or out competing for food would start to increase their numbers. Of course many of the creeks face other pressures as well as trout, agricultural runoff, snag removal, dams etc which may well prevent any natives from reaching their pre-European settlement populations but getting rid of trout certainly wouldn't hurtFisho11 wrote:Hypothectically if Trout were not stocked and classed as noxious, populations declined, would larger natives take there place? Or more Blackfish and Galaxis? Ive always wondered what was in those smaller creeks pre introduced species.
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Removing restrictions on trout.
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If you want to know what was where read:
http://truetales.com.au/book.php
The reality is trout fishing is popular and you won't turn back the clock. Besides, if you got trout out of the streams it would just be another excuse to shut people out of national parks.
Truedogz
http://truetales.com.au/book.php
The reality is trout fishing is popular and you won't turn back the clock. Besides, if you got trout out of the streams it would just be another excuse to shut people out of national parks.
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No intention of Pot stirring whatsoever. Wanted to see how others view trout in comparison to other introduced species.Fish-cador wrote:I wonder why most of your posts are intended to stir the pot. :down:rb85 wrote:As trout are an introduced species should there be no closed season or bag limits? Should they be declared noxious not to be returned live?
Fish-Cador get your popcorn mate.
Wolly, ban this guy. :rofl:
Thought I would invite you for some popcorn as it seems to be your thing.
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For me there will always be a soft spot for trout fishing but I also understand that they are an introduced species that seem to take resources away from other native species that others here have mentioned in similar threads.
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It seems that it would be worth getting a petition together and sending it to the DPI to suggest they change their stocking priorities!
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Australian grayling populations have been decimated by trout. They fill a very similar ecological niche to trout and are in direct competition with them, but are nowhere near as voroacious or prolific breeders. Galaxids are also easy prey for trout and there is a lot of evidence showing direct correlations between trout introductions and declines in galaxid populations.Fisho11 wrote:Hypothectically if Trout were not stocked and classed as noxious, populations declined, would larger natives take there place? Or more Blackfish and Galaxis? Ive always wondered what was in those smaller creeks pre introduced species.
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Fisho11
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same as all the pretty bambi deer and wild horses running around the high country their all vermin and should be shoot on sight
just like dogs cats goats and pigs .
just like dogs cats goats and pigs .
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Yep. If it isn't native it should be open season.Tackleberry wrote:same as all the pretty bambi deer and wild horses running around the high country their all vermin and should be shoot on sight
just like dogs cats goats and pigs .
There's nothing . . . absolutely nothing . . . half so much worth doing as simply messing around in boats.
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Re: Removing restrictions on trout.
I understand the principle, but it's a bit simplistic to suggest the merits of trout are based solely on ecological considerations. Trout angling is a massive tourist industry and supports a number of regional communities.
Stocking natives such as bass and EP's outside their natural range is no different. They will still prey on, and likely outcompete the indigenous species which aren't accustomed to those pressures. Whether its trout or bass you're still introducing an apex predator into a foreign environment.
The removal of trout from some of the more pristine systems may see an improvement in native stocks, however the reality is many systems where trout are stocked are substantially compromised and reduced trout stocking would only see a rise in more damaging exotics such as carp and redfin.
Stocking natives such as bass and EP's outside their natural range is no different. They will still prey on, and likely outcompete the indigenous species which aren't accustomed to those pressures. Whether its trout or bass you're still introducing an apex predator into a foreign environment.
The removal of trout from some of the more pristine systems may see an improvement in native stocks, however the reality is many systems where trout are stocked are substantially compromised and reduced trout stocking would only see a rise in more damaging exotics such as carp and redfin.
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i could never undestand the obsession with native fish. i take all fish at their face value, based on sport and eating qualities and i'll take trout over natives any day. saying that natives are better because they are, well, natives is nothing but a reverse racism.
having said that, i think the fisheries do a pretty terrible job when it comes to lakes and reservoirs management as their number one goal should be creation of self sustained fish population, but instead they stock fish that don't breed in lakes. pointless.
having said that, i think the fisheries do a pretty terrible job when it comes to lakes and reservoirs management as their number one goal should be creation of self sustained fish population, but instead they stock fish that don't breed in lakes. pointless.