Making Boating Better For Victorians

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by ango » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:07 am

I would not hold your breath, the process would be fairly complicated, they have to make an inventory of all the ramps and who controls them, then I suppose negotiate with multiple councils, foreshore committees, parks & gardens etc., then draft legislation and get it through parliament, and remember this is largely being done by a large bureaucracy (the public service), it will take some time.
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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by purple5ive » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:12 am

im hoping that if and when its done that normal cars dont take up parking thats meant to be for trailers, this will be a fun exercise..
as it is people are doing it in the paid trailer only parking, only going to be worse when its free for all.

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by rb85 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:48 am

That’s where signage needs to erected and fines issued for parking in trailer only spots.
Have seen bass coast shire fine cars for being in boat trailer parking only problem I had was it was blowing a gale and no one was fishing anyway.

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by Mattblack » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:02 am

Maybe build some new Jet ski only ramps away from the public....that would solve multiple issues

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by purple5ive » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:45 am

rb85 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:48 am
That’s where signage needs to erected and fines issued for parking in trailer only spots.
Have seen bass coast shire fine cars for being in boat trailer parking only problem I had was it was blowing a gale and no one was fishing anyway.
signage and fines will do fkall when its summer and you turn up at the ramp and find the cars without trailers have taken up all the parking, nothing will help you then cause you cannot launch. but yeah its a good start.
ive been told by the police (while they were fining cars) to ring the local station and they will send out officers straight away (mornington) but that still doesnt give me anywhere to park which means i cannot launch..

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by rb85 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:08 am

purple5ive wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:45 am
rb85 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:48 am
That’s where signage needs to erected and fines issued for parking in trailer only spots.
Have seen bass coast shire fine cars for being in boat trailer parking only problem I had was it was blowing a gale and no one was fishing anyway.
signage and fines will do fkall when its summer and you turn up at the ramp and find the cars without trailers have taken up all the parking, nothing will help you then cause you cannot launch. but yeah its a good start.
ive been told by the police (while they were fining cars) to ring the local station and they will send out officers straight away (mornington) but that still doesnt give me anywhere to park which means i cannot launch..
That’s true but I don’t see how free ramp fees changes an existing parking infringement issue. What it seems you’re suggesting by your initial post is people already breaking local laws will increase once there’s an abolishment in ramp fees? To me if individual drivers are parking in boat trailer car parks they wouldn’t be paying the ramp fee to allow it.

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by Nude up » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:08 am

Mattblack wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:02 am
Maybe build some new Jet ski only ramps away from the public....that would solve multiple issues
Preferably in a shark infested area

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by purple5ive » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:45 am

rb85 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:08 am
purple5ive wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:45 am
rb85 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:48 am
That’s where signage needs to erected and fines issued for parking in trailer only spots.
Have seen bass coast shire fine cars for being in boat trailer parking only problem I had was it was blowing a gale and no one was fishing anyway.
signage and fines will do fkall when its summer and you turn up at the ramp and find the cars without trailers have taken up all the parking, nothing will help you then cause you cannot launch. but yeah its a good start.
ive been told by the police (while they were fining cars) to ring the local station and they will send out officers straight away (mornington) but that still doesnt give me anywhere to park which means i cannot launch..
That’s true but I don’t see how free ramp fees changes an existing parking infringement issue. What it seems you’re suggesting by your initial post is people already breaking local laws will increase once there’s an abolishment in ramp fees? To me if individual drivers are parking in boat trailer car parks they wouldn’t be paying the ramp fee to allow it.
Yes breaking the law. And I am betting it will get worse now because it's free parking. Currently its paid parking and designated areas for trailer but when its summer people start parking in trailer bays because they cannot find anywhere else to park.
Once the trailer parking is taken up then anyone that comes with a boat cannot launch because theres nowehere to park the trailer. So it's either go back home or find a nearby ramp with parking still available.

It's not the infringement rule im talking about.
People get fined quite a lot. But mornington pier is a very very busy place and many people visit it for an outing. When the pier parking is full people park in the boat ramp area . It happens quite a lot. People get fined but still continue to park there when theres no room.

Free parking will now mean more people using up valuable trailer parking for non trailer vehicles

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by cobby » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:58 am

purple5ive wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:45 am
rb85 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:48 am
That’s where signage needs to erected and fines issued for parking in trailer only spots.
Have seen bass coast shire fine cars for being in boat trailer parking only problem I had was it was blowing a gale and no one was fishing anyway.
signage and fines will do fkall when its summer and you turn up at the ramp and find the cars without trailers have taken up all the parking, nothing will help you then cause you cannot launch. but yeah its a good start.
ive been told by the police (while they were fining cars) to ring the local station and they will send out officers straight away (mornington) but that still doesnt give me anywhere to park which means i cannot launch..
Just block them in. I've watched someone deliberately park almost behind a car, get his mates to help lift the trailer and wrap it around the offending car which was also boxed in on the other side, all with the carpark almost empty. Needless to say person was not happy 3 hours later when the boat returned...

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Re: Making Boating Better For Victorians

Post by rb85 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:02 pm

purple5ive wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:45 am
rb85 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:08 am
purple5ive wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:45 am
rb85 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:48 am
That’s where signage needs to erected and fines issued for parking in trailer only spots.
Have seen bass coast shire fine cars for being in boat trailer parking only problem I had was it was blowing a gale and no one was fishing anyway.
signage and fines will do fkall when its summer and you turn up at the ramp and find the cars without trailers have taken up all the parking, nothing will help you then cause you cannot launch. but yeah its a good start.
ive been told by the police (while they were fining cars) to ring the local station and they will send out officers straight away (mornington) but that still doesnt give me anywhere to park which means i cannot launch..
That’s true but I don’t see how free ramp fees changes an existing parking infringement issue. What it seems you’re suggesting by your initial post is people already breaking local laws will increase once there’s an abolishment in ramp fees? To me if individual drivers are parking in boat trailer car parks they wouldn’t be paying the ramp fee to allow it.
Yes breaking the law. And I am betting it will get worse now because it's free parking. Currently its paid parking and designated areas for trailer but when its summer people start parking in trailer bays because they cannot find anywhere else to park.
Once the trailer parking is taken up then anyone that comes with a boat cannot launch because theres nowehere to park the trailer. So it's either go back home or find a nearby ramp with parking still available.

It's not the infringement rule im talking about.
People get fined quite a lot. But mornington pier is a very very busy place and many people visit it for an outing. When the pier parking is full people park in the boat ramp area . It happens quite a lot. People get fined but still continue to park there when theres no room.

Free parking will now mean more people using up valuable trailer parking for non trailer vehicles
If it’s free or not the rules getting broken either there needs to be more boat trailer spaces, more general parking or increased penalties as a deterrent.

Did the people parked in boat trailer spots buy a ramp ticket or pay to park there previously? Just can’t see how ramp fee abolishment will increase the amount of jetty users parking in the wrong spot.

I’m just glad I don’t put up with that crap the suburban ramp users contend with.

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