IT'S TIME TO END COMMERCIAL NETTING OF FISH IN THE GIPPSLAND LAKES

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Re: IT'S TIME TO END COMMERCIAL NETTING OF FISH IN THE GIPPSLAND LAKES

Post by cobby » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:19 pm

lnkfishing wrote:Dear re-tyred please explain why commercial netting can't be confined to outside the shelf?
Why? Try because it's next to impossible to actually do. You can kiss goodbye to just about every single available bait you can buy for starters, not only that, but kiss goodbye a good 75% of fish sold at fish mongers.

You and your whole group demonstrate time and time again you've got not even a pooftenth of an idea of the how's, where's and why's the lakes system itself is losing its predominantly estuary species to almost solely the rivers and instead of even addressing a single issue that is actually an issue to the problem all you lot do is heap it at the feet of commercial fishing with zero factual evidence.

And fyi retyred has more knowledge on the subject and area from a recreational, commercial and ecological standpoint than your whole group could even dream of obtaining before half of you are to old to remember.

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Re: IT'S TIME TO END COMMERCIAL NETTING OF FISH IN THE GIPPSLAND LAKES

Post by blacklab99 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm

Geeez, Another vegan/vegetarian know it all !
The thing is, those that don't fish,
Those that never venture anywhere near the water,
Those that get all there experience, from a class room at university,
Those that quote " kontiki" from N.Z, but are quoting from books, and have know idea about that topic,
Need to listen, to people that WANT a sustainable fishing resource in our waters and have an ocean that can both sustain commercial fisherman,
and recreational fisherman at the same time for generations to come, Sort of like what is happening now, a continued improvement in the condition of out ocean and fish stocks, this drive comes from the current commercial fisherman and recreational fisho's who wouldnt want it any other way.
Only someone with a very limited knowledge base could ever suggest banning netting this side of the shelf !!
Sometimes these clueless greenies, don't stop to think, where there macdonalds fish burger is actually coming from !


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Re: IT'S TIME TO END COMMERCIAL NETTING OF FISH IN THE GIPPSLAND LAKES

Post by smile0784 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:14 pm

blacklab99 wrote:Geeez, Another vegan/vegetarian know it all !
The thing is, those that don't fish,
Those that never venture anywhere near the water,
Those that get all there experience, from a class room at university,
Those that quote " kontiki" from N.Z, but are quoting from books, and have know idea about that topic,
Need to listen, to people that WANT a sustainable fishing resource in our waters and have an ocean that can both sustain commercial fisherman,
and recreational fisherman at the same time for generations to come, Sort of like what is happening now, a continued improvement in the condition of out ocean and fish stocks, this drive comes from the current commercial fisherman and recreational fisho's who wouldnt want it any other way.
Only someone with a very limited knowledge base could ever suggest banning netting this side of the shelf !!
Sometimes these clueless greenies, don't stop to think, where there macdonalds fish burger is actually coming from !


Col
Well said mate

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Re: IT'S TIME TO END COMMERCIAL NETTING OF FISH IN THE GIPPSLAND LAKES

Post by phil1818 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:24 pm

Stick your partition up ya coight there are a lot bigger issues then rubbish like this commercial fisherman already have enough crap to deal with apart from copping it from a bunch of do-gooders who have no idea what there talking about

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Re: IT'S TIME TO END COMMERCIAL NETTING OF FISH IN THE GIPPSLAND LAKES

Post by Lightningx » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:47 pm

smile0784 wrote:
blacklab99 wrote:Geeez, Another vegan/vegetarian know it all !
The thing is, those that don't fish,
Those that never venture anywhere near the water,
Those that get all there experience, from a class room at university,
Those that quote " kontiki" from N.Z, but are quoting from books, and have know idea about that topic,
Need to listen, to people that WANT a sustainable fishing resource in our waters and have an ocean that can both sustain commercial fisherman,
and recreational fisherman at the same time for generations to come, Sort of like what is happening now, a continued improvement in the condition of out ocean and fish stocks, this drive comes from the current commercial fisherman and recreational fisho's who wouldnt want it any other way.
Only someone with a very limited knowledge base could ever suggest banning netting this side of the shelf !!
Sometimes these clueless greenies, don't stop to think, where there macdonalds fish burger is actually coming from !


Col
Well said mate
X2.

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Re: IT'S TIME TO END COMMERCIAL NETTING OF FISH IN THE GIPPSLAND LAKES

Post by re-tyred » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:59 pm

I see yet again uninformed comment. Re. Outside the continental shelf. 95% of Australian caught commercial species are caught on the continental shelf in depths less than 400 metres. So all your flathead shark mowing whiting etc would no longer be available to those that don't fish.
There's nothing . . . absolutely nothing . . . half so much worth doing as simply messing around in boats.
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Post by re-tyred » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:10 pm

If you want to long line fish then be prepared to have ten times as many commercial fishers and ten times the price. You simply cannot economically harvest most species with long lines. If you could they would be doing it. Net making and repairs is an arduous job. I know I have spent thousands of hours doing it, but you just can't catch enough flathead whiting etc by long line. If you believe that long lines don't catch on target species or undersized fish then you are sadly misinformed. The best fish size control is obtained by square mesh codends. Look it up.
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Post by re-tyred » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:21 pm

I have to say this whole campaign is a misinformed load of tripe. It will most probably end in the lakes closed for commercial fishing and then to the dismay of the campaigners no change to bream catches. Then you will have wasted many years and destroyed the lives of 10 fishers for no gain. Address the environment and you will address the problem. If you think too many bream are taken then the best way to fix that is reduce the rec bag limit. As it is rec fishers that take the most. In fact you would need to reduce it to two to then equal the commercial take
There's nothing . . . absolutely nothing . . . half so much worth doing as simply messing around in boats.
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Post by smile0784 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:38 pm

Great info retyred

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Post by hornet » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:12 pm

re-tyred wrote:I have to say this whole campaign is a misinformed load of tripe. It will most probably end in the lakes closed for commercial fishing and then to the dismay of the campaigners no change to bream catches. Then you will have wasted many years and destroyed the lives of 10 fishers for no gain. Address the environment and you will address the problem. If you think too many bream are taken then the best way to fix that is reduce the rec bag limit. As it is rec fishers that take the most. In fact you would need to reduce it to two to then equal the commercial take
This is phase one, once they get rid of the commercial sector stage two will be to stop all recreational fishing.

This issue raises it's head every so often, it's the SJW crew testing the waters.
He who has the most fishing rods WINS ! :ts:

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