2019 Melbourne Boat Show

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by frozenpod » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:16 am

cobby wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:00 pm
Brett wrote:
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I too just got back from the boat show. Great day out picked up a few bits and pieces but the new boats are way out of my price range. Some very nice boats I loked the Evolution boats they seem very well built and have a deep hull.
https://www.marinebusiness.com.au/news/ ... tion-boats

I wouldn't buy one regardless. Very poor boats IMO.

In what regard?
The ain't known as Flipperlutions for nothing.
Yes that as well as the cost.

Bugatti

Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by Bugatti » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:40 am

cobby wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:00 pm
Brett wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:55 pm
frozenpod wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:43 pm
rb85 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:31 pm
KeenAds wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:41 pm
I too just got back from the boat show. Great day out picked up a few bits and pieces but the new boats are way out of my price range. Some very nice boats I loked the Evolution boats they seem very well built and have a deep hull.
https://www.marinebusiness.com.au/news/ ... tion-boats

I wouldn't buy one regardless. Very poor boats IMO.

In what regard?
The ain't known as Flipperlutions for nothing.


Extract from marinebusiness.com



Victorian boat builder bought out of liquidation by previous owners.

Victorian boat builder Evolution Boats says it is “business as usual” after its parent company, PM Marine Manufacturing, was put into liquidation last week.

Owner Paul Junginger told Marine Business that prior to PM Marine Manufacturing, of which he was the main shareholder, being put into liquidation, Evolution Boats was sold to a new company, PM Composites, also under his control, which was registered with the Australian Securities & Investments Commission just two weeks earlier.

As a result, Junginger said Evolution Boats is now back in business under the new ownership at the same premises and with the same staff.




Is this for real , , , , well it is , , , , but , , , , what a



So let me get this straight , , , ,


Paul Junginger , , , , owned "Evolution Boats"

then

"PM Marine Manufacturing", which Paul Junginger effectively owns, buys "Evolution Boats" (which he owned anyway ????)

then

"PM Marine Manufacturing" goes into liquidation, which is the company that Paul effectively owns


BUT BUT

two weeks before "PM Marine Manufacturing" goes into liquidation, which is effectively Paul going bust

"PM Composites", who effectively is owned by Paul Junginger (with surprisingly similar "PM" names) buys "Evolution Boats" , , , , again, after buying it again and going bust



So , , , , a Company (Evolution Boats) that Paul owns, is then bought by Paul (himself) which then (Paul effectively) goes into liquidation and then "Evolution Boats" is bought by Paul (himself) again , , , , after going bust ????



AND they have the guts to say , , , , Evolution Boats is now back in business under the NEW OWNERSHIP , , , , and surprise surprise , , , , they also say , , , , at the same premises and with the same staff




I wonder how the unpaid creditors feel about all of that

Well Boats do catch fish , , , , so that may explain the Fishy Business

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by frozenpod » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:29 am

Pretty much.

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by cobby » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:41 am

Bugatti wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:40 am
cobby wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:00 pm
Brett wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:55 pm
frozenpod wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:43 pm

I wouldn't buy one regardless. Very poor boats IMO.

In what regard?
The ain't known as Flipperlutions for nothing.


Extract from marinebusiness.com



Victorian boat builder bought out of liquidation by previous owners.

Victorian boat builder Evolution Boats says it is “business as usual” after its parent company, PM Marine Manufacturing, was put into liquidation last week.

Owner Paul Junginger told Marine Business that prior to PM Marine Manufacturing, of which he was the main shareholder, being put into liquidation, Evolution Boats was sold to a new company, PM Composites, also under his control, which was registered with the Australian Securities & Investments Commission just two weeks earlier.

As a result, Junginger said Evolution Boats is now back in business under the new ownership at the same premises and with the same staff.




Is this for real , , , , well it is , , , , but , , , , what a



So let me get this straight , , , ,


Paul Junginger , , , , owned "Evolution Boats"

then

"PM Marine Manufacturing", which Paul Junginger effectively owns, buys "Evolution Boats" (which he owned anyway ????)

then

"PM Marine Manufacturing" goes into liquidation, which is the company that Paul effectively owns


BUT BUT

two weeks before "PM Marine Manufacturing" goes into liquidation, which is effectively Paul going bust

"PM Composites", who effectively is owned by Paul Junginger (with surprisingly similar "PM" names) buys "Evolution Boats" , , , , again, after buying it again and going bust



So , , , , a Company (Evolution Boats) that Paul owns, is then bought by Paul (himself) which then (Paul effectively) goes into liquidation and then "Evolution Boats" is bought by Paul (himself) again , , , , after going bust ????



AND they have the guts to say , , , , Evolution Boats is now back in business under the NEW OWNERSHIP , , , , and surprise surprise , , , , they also say , , , , at the same premises and with the same staff




I wonder how the unpaid creditors feel about all of that

Well Boats do catch fish , , , , so that may explain the Fishy Business
Nailed it. Someone with a tv show also sold his large Evolution for another brand at roughly the same time. Coincidental I dont know...

As for cost, Signature 485sf Suzuki 100hp $46k (optioned up), Northbank 500c Mercury 75hp $46k (optioned up, base price closer to $40k), Evolution 500 cuddy Mercury 115hp $60k, Evolution 552 Axis Mercury 135hp $76k, Signature 543sf Suzuki 140hp $63k. All prices come from boatsales from Victorian dealers with relevant fees/charges

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by bowl » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:14 am

frozenpod wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:16 am
cobby wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:00 pm
Brett wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:55 pm
frozenpod wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:43 pm

I wouldn't buy one regardless. Very poor boats IMO.

In what regard?
The ain't known as Flipperlutions for nothing.
Yes that as well as the cost.
Insept for the one that fliped at water test day.
Has there been any others that flipped.?
Surly there would tons of footage/ news of them flipping by now ?
To many boats kayak, helicopter , catch a fish,catch a fish

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by frozenpod » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:37 am

bowl wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:14 am
frozenpod wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:16 am
cobby wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:00 pm
Brett wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:55 pm
frozenpod wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:43 pm



I wouldn't buy one regardless. Very poor boats IMO.

In what regard?
The ain't known as Flipperlutions for nothing.
Yes that as well as the cost.
Insept for the one that fliped at water test day.
Has there been any others that flipped.?
Surly there would tons of footage/ news of them flipping by now ?
Yes there have been lots, there was 5 that rolled in the first 12-18 months after they went on sale.
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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by rb85 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am

The Haines hunters looked fantastic at the Port Phillip boating centre stand.

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by bowl » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:11 am

frozenpod wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:37 am
bowl wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:14 am
frozenpod wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:16 am
cobby wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:00 pm
Brett wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:55 pm



In what regard?
The ain't known as Flipperlutions for nothing.
Yes that as well as the cost.
Insept for the one that fliped at water test day.
Has there been any others that flipped.?
Surly there would tons of footage/ news of them flipping by now ?
Yes there have been lots, there was 5 that rolled in the first 12-18 months after they went on sale.
Fair enough...
Any numbers of how many bacrushers have rolled doing bar crossings..
To many boats kayak, helicopter , catch a fish,catch a fish

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by frozenpod » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:36 am

No idea on BC, I certainly haven't heard of them rolling other than the driver error when crossing the bar.

Where as plenty of EVOs have rolled some whilst at rest. Certainly enough of an issue to make you think twice about parting with your hard earned for one.

Bowl a lot of this was discussed in 2014.

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