Back in lockdown again.
- Sebb
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Re: Back in lockdown again.
So are we pretty much just have to wait til Aus (or at least Vic) to get to 70% people vaccinated?
Haven't been following and got a quick glimpse on that's how the govt plan is atm. Then found this.
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And says something like with current rate Aus will get 70% fully vaccinated in Oct.
That's still quite a long time to be able to fish/travel 'free'.
Haven't been following and got a quick glimpse on that's how the govt plan is atm. Then found this.
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And says something like with current rate Aus will get 70% fully vaccinated in Oct.
That's still quite a long time to be able to fish/travel 'free'.
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Re: Back in lockdown again.
who knows sebb, 70%? 80%? will the % start going backwards as the early receivers require boosters to maintain their fully vaccinated status?
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Re: Back in lockdown again.
Yeah true
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Re: Back in lockdown again.
That sounded like it was one of the issues the premiers were arguing over, the states who aren't at 70% didn't really want to re-open to the rest of the country as soon as NSW hit 70% because they'd get a bunch of covid cases.Sebb wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:26 amSo are we pretty much just have to wait til Aus (or at least Vic) to get to 70% people vaccinated?
Haven't been following and got a quick glimpse on that's how the govt plan is atm. Then found this.
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And says something like with current rate Aus will get 70% fully vaccinated in Oct.
That's still quite a long time to be able to fish/travel 'free'.
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It’s interesting the right wing outlets like Spectator never mention long covid. Almost as if they have some sort of agenda to downplay the seriousness of it.
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Re: Back in lockdown again.
Interesting article. It starts by saying "the facts and only the facts" then does a comparison of covid vax deaths compared to covid deaths in a locked down situation. To do a correct comparison you would need to compare deaths from vax, to death from a totally open situation. Lockdowns are the control when you don't have vax available. So they are both control measures.
It then ends the article with a lot of rambling opinions.
Still worth a read, but, medical science is the place to go, for as near as you will get, to unbiased information on our current knowledge for pandemic control.
It then ends the article with a lot of rambling opinions.
Still worth a read, but, medical science is the place to go, for as near as you will get, to unbiased information on our current knowledge for pandemic control.
There's nothing . . . absolutely nothing . . . half so much worth doing as simply messing around in boats.
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Went for a nice walk along the beach this morning and I reckon only 20% of people were wearing masks (felt pretty good seeing peoples faces again to be honest). Dan really needs to lift some restrictions right now...they need to dump the curfew, limited time outdoors and masks outside rules at a minimum asap. This has gone on way, way too long and the issues it's causing with mental health with outlast Covid.
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Contrary to popular belief, the vaccine does help reduce the spread of the virus quite substantially, so the boosters shouldn't make much difference if they lag a bit behind. Also, those vaccinated who get the virus will then have developed their own immune antibodies
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Re: Back in lockdown again.
Dougie I don't know if Michael West is 'genuinely independent' or not but he is either unaware or deliberately omitted a key piece of information.DougieK wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:19 amMichael West called it three months ago and everyone said he was lying. This is why actual genuinely independent journalism is so important.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/governme ... july-2020/
I reported earlier on the conversations I had with contacts in New Zealand and they told me that the offer that Pfizer made to the kiwis and us had an important string attached: the agreement to exclusively use Pfizer as its vaccine supply.
They will not make this public - at least at this time - as both countries still depend on Pfizer. Supporting this is Pfizer's 'offer' was 40 million - our entire requirement. The Kiwis told me that Pfizer was pretty aggressive about it and took out their wrath on them in the fallout from the WTO motion I mentioned previously.
Would anyone, particularly Australia with its capacity to produce another vaccine, go down this path with this option? New Zealand had to having so antagonised Pfizer with their enthusiatic support for the WTO motion sponsored by India and South Africa and only signing up after Australia in December 2020 - with Pfizer getting what they wanted. I don't see Jacinta Ardrern coming in for criticism in the chat here when New Zealand's rollout is actually slower than ours.
Both Australia and New Zealand were going down the same path. Buy Pfizer initially as it was going to be the first approved and provides rapid protection but is difficult to transport and store, is very expensive and represents the first broadscale rollout of this style of vaccine = use it for front line workers. Buy AZ when it becomes available later, a more traditional vaccine but slower acting which Australia could manufacture that is easy to transport and store and is more cost effective = use it for the balance of the population.
Any rational person would consider that to be a sound strategy with lower risks. Where would Australia be now if we had taken the Pfizer offer with strings attached and it developed serious issues? At the very least we would have had a significant delay to the rollout while we tried to find an alternate vaccine.
I am not for one moment trying to say the Morrison government did a perfect job with the vaccine rollout which they haven't or that they were totally blameless in their negotiations with Pfizer. But the original choices on how to use Pfizer and AZ were actually sound in the circumstance. It was the selection of their other other vaccine options that can be seriously questioned and the mechanics of the initial rollout left a lot to be desired.