Sounder for kayak angling.
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
Yeah sidescan is definitely a game changer.
But you need to get good at reading it which comes with time.
But you need to get good at reading it which comes with time.
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
There are plenty of great YouTube videos that give a good explanation of what you are seeing and what you are looking for.purple5ive wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:59 pmYeah sidescan is definitely a game changer.
But you need to get good at reading it which comes with time.
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
yep, plenty out there. but seeing a video and seeing it in real life are 2 different things. tuning the sounder to read properly is half the problem.SteveoTheTiger wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:30 pmThere are plenty of great YouTube videos that give a good explanation of what you are seeing and what you are looking for.purple5ive wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:59 pmYeah sidescan is definitely a game changer.
But you need to get good at reading it which comes with time.
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
BUMP!cobby wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:57 pmYou won't get any downscan or sidescan at that depth. But any basic sounder with its in box transducer should be fine to 150m. Garmin website list the transducer model that comes with each sounder and also have a separate transducer page with all their specs. Don't know if lowrance have the same. The higher wattage the deeper the read, if the headunit can produce enough power4liters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:02 pmAny idea what transducer I should be looking at if I want to be able to pick up enough detail in 150m to easily identify bait schools and features like reefs, wreaks etc? I'd also like to be able to use it in shallower water.
It may well be the case that I can do this with a basic sounder if I play with the settings a bit but I know **** all about marine electronics and I'm not sure what the various models are capable of.
Obviously I could get a 1kw transducer with all the bells and whistles but ideally I just want the cheapest unit that will do the job.
I know the gt52hw that comes with striker and echomap 7+9" models works ok to 210m. The dearer gt51 will read deeper
It's nearly time to pull the trigger on one of these things, I'm tossing up between these two but they both have a their own potential advantages/drawbacks from what I can see online.
https://www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Gar ... inder.html
- gt52hw transducer (so in theory will they work to the same depth??)
- no built in maps
- may be able to download maps onto the unit via an app/wifi
- $450 cheaper
- I think this should be compatible with the GT20-TM transducer in the other kayak which means I can sell the Striker 5 head unit I have and swap the new head unit between the two kayaks.
https://www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Gar ... Combo.html
- gt52hw transducer (so in theory will they work to the same depth??)
- includes maps
- $450 more expensive
The big question is whether I can download maps and put them on the Striker via the app (I have no idea if I can get some open source maps for free and use those - I'll do it that way if I can but for the purposes of this I'll assume I have to pay for them). Does anyone know if this is the case? I can't see any mention of transferring maps onto the Striker online.
Another question is whether the EchoMap unit has better internal electronics that will get more out of the same transducer compared to the Striker, and if so what sort of difference I might expect? The descriptions on the links above suggest the EchoMap will go deeper, although they both say they have CHIRP.
If the EchoMap head unit is be compatible with the GT20-TM transducer on the other kayak that might sway me in that direction if I can't download maps onto the Striker.
It's a shame the more powerful transducers don't come with a smaller head unit, I don't really need a 7" screen as I'm sitting less than a meter away from it at all times.
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
I can’t contribute much in the way of sounders - I am still using an elite 4 CHIRP (old tech now) however I can vouch for the berleypro sun visors, although a little faded due to salt water environment I have no complaints about mine whatsoever. It allows me to run a slightly darker screen which increases battery life
EDIT: just realised I replied to an old post.. bugger
EDIT: just realised I replied to an old post.. bugger
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
Yeah, I'll probably get one to try and get a bit more out of the battery for times when I'm spending a few nights down at Portland - probably a bit more important with the sounders with the larger screens. I'll need a yipaah stickaah for the kayak anyway so might as well get the sun shade at the same time.Tim399 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:33 pmI can’t contribute much in the way of sounders - I am still using an elite 4 CHIRP (old tech now) however I can vouch for the berleypro sun visors, although a little faded due to salt water environment I have no complaints about mine whatsoever. It allows me to run a slightly darker screen which increases battery life
EDIT: just realised I replied to an old post.. bugger
2015/16 Fisting Victoria Species comp total: 289cm
Brown Trout: 37cm
Flathead: 51cm; Squid: 36cm; Australian Salmon: 51cm; Snapper 46cm; Silver Trevally 23cm; KGW: 45cm
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Brown Trout: 37cm
Flathead: 51cm; Squid: 36cm; Australian Salmon: 51cm; Snapper 46cm; Silver Trevally 23cm; KGW: 45cm
Major Sponsor: Rim Master Tackle
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
If I were to buy another sounder I’d definitely get another one. It also helps reduce water on the screen (drives me crazy at times) but this may not be of help in your wetter ride ski. I’ll get to Portland one day...4liters wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:54 pmYeah, I'll probably get one to try and get a bit more out of the battery for times when I'm spending a few nights down at Portland - probably a bit more important with the sounders with the larger screens. I'll need a yipaah stickaah for the kayak anyway so might as well get the sun shade at the same time.Tim399 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:33 pmI can’t contribute much in the way of sounders - I am still using an elite 4 CHIRP (old tech now) however I can vouch for the berleypro sun visors, although a little faded due to salt water environment I have no complaints about mine whatsoever. It allows me to run a slightly darker screen which increases battery life
EDIT: just realised I replied to an old post.. bugger
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
Leejo just bought some lowrance touch screen thing in 7" with side scan now he's sooking about the drag the transducer makes with an off the rear transducer mount
it's a shame they don't in hull mount properly
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Re: Sounder for kayak angling.
Sounds like he needs to upgrade to some other fishing kayakcheaterparts wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:31 pmLeejo just bought some lowrance touch screen thing in 7" with side scan now he's sooking about the drag the transducer makes with an off the rear transducer mount
it's a shame they don't in hull mount properly
2015/16 Fisting Victoria Species comp total: 289cm
Brown Trout: 37cm
Flathead: 51cm; Squid: 36cm; Australian Salmon: 51cm; Snapper 46cm; Silver Trevally 23cm; KGW: 45cm
Major Sponsor: Rim Master Tackle
Brown Trout: 37cm
Flathead: 51cm; Squid: 36cm; Australian Salmon: 51cm; Snapper 46cm; Silver Trevally 23cm; KGW: 45cm
Major Sponsor: Rim Master Tackle