What's in your too hard basket?

[Bugatti]

For me, it's just trying to find time when I don't have commitments AND when I can move things around, trying to ensue that the weather is favourable is another hurdle , , , , to go with the Boat or even Land-based.

Mastering garfish with float set up....

bowl use a waggler float shotted right for the condition,s example on a calm day just the tip sitting above the water on a rough day you would use less splitshot so tip of float sit,s higher in the water.Burley is the key i burley up hard at the start to get them in and then cut right back just enough to keep them intersted if nothing in say 40 minutes move 20 odd meters do the same till you find them.Hook,s size 10 to 14 flyfishing hook,s i use a double rig where i turn a 3way swivel the wrong way and attach some rubber tube to each side of the swivel the run my leader threw it i use good quality fluro leader some people say it does,nt matter about the fluro but over the last 4yrs the results stand for them self yep i love float fishing for gar,s.As for bait i now use maggots try putting 1 maggot on one hook 3 on the other and see what they prefer .I use kamasan float stopper so i can adjust the lenght of leader till i find what level in the water there feeding at during a session when there on you might still have to adjust no bloody running float fixed float .For maggots give them a second or two once you float goes under with silverfish strike hard watch your float some days it will just go under other day,s it will slowly move sideway or lift upward,s that,s the beauty of using the waggler float you can see everything that,s happening

dazz, that is exactly what my Gar Guru says as well , , , , my Brother in-law. He can catch Gar like a Gar Whisperer.

The berley , , , , heavy then very light is a big key. AND I agree, watching the float and knowing any change to how it floats/moves is the trick too.

Only addition I would make to dazz's perfection is (as I have been shown and use and know it works) is super sharp hooks, preferably long-shank size 8-12 , , , , and a soft tipped rod.

Cheers, an Aspiring Gar Apprentice, Bugatti

yeah nar hook,s my fav are kamasan b800 classic trout extra long chemically sharpened needle point high carbon any time i can find these i buy every one one the rack and drop you hook size down .Try 14,s you might be surprised ? as for rod i use a 10ft6 not a soft tip as soon as the float goes down bang strike with silverfish give it a second or 2 when using maggot,s the longer rod help.s pick up the slack line alot quicker

Thanks for the tips, dazz. As I know hooks are the trick and the difference , , , , definitely going to try those. I have a stiffer rod than my Brother in-laws (no pun intended , , , , well maybe just a bit) and I don't do as well as he does with the Gar , , , , it maybe, as you have suggested, better that my rod is stiffer than his and about 8+ feet , , , , but he still catches more than i with his more flexible rod, so looks like my technique then needs a bit of improve too

Great points, Cheers

Bugatti

[matari]

catching a cod on a sub surface lure!

[cobby]

Swords. The distance and associated costs can **** right off

[4liters]

Breams

[Whiskers]

Going back a couple of posts about catching garfish and the conversation regarding hooks and bait I'm going to mention that you don't need a hook or bait to catch them.

All you need is a few lengths of either red or white hool tied directly to your line. No hooks, no bait and no weight or at best, a little split shot. The gars will attack the wool and their little needle teeth and beaks will tangle in the wool.

Fish gently and just lift them out.

Don't laugh. It works!
:water:

[Sebb]

Going back a couple of posts about catching garfish and the conversation regarding hooks and bait I'm going to mention that you don't need a hook or bait to catch them.

All you need is a few lengths of either red or white hool tied directly to your line. No hooks, no bait and no weight or at best, a little split shot. The gars will attack the wool and their little needle teeth and beaks will tangle in the wool.

Fish gently and just lift them out.

Don't laugh. It works!
:water:

I remember I watched an episode of ifish where Paul fished for a big gar somewhere in Europe with this technique and yes, it works!
Not laughing, I believe you. Should try actually.

[ChrisD]

Constantly catching the elusive Yarra river Blackfish......those I have caught have been far more luck than skill......

[purple5ive]

Mastering garfish with float set up....

just buy the pre made rigs from bcf and off you go, its probably the easiest fish to catch, and great fun for kids as well..

[bowl]

Mastering garfish with float set up....

just buy the pre made rigs from bcf and off you go, its probably the easiest fish to catch, and great fun for kids as well..

Tryed that plenty of times no good....

[purple5ive]

Mastering garfish with float set up....

just buy the pre made rigs from bcf and off you go, its probably the easiest fish to catch, and great fun for kids as well..

Tryed that plenty of times no good....

you must be doing something wrong mate!! thats all ive ever used.
cbfd tying a garfish rig when its 2-3 bucks at BCF/kmart/big w etc etc

the key is to make sure you adjust the depth to suit where the fish are, thats a trial and error and can vary drastically.

buy the ones that have pencil floats, not the massive bulky ones..