Corona virus part 2

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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by laneends » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:48 pm

bowl wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:22 pm
Ffs so went into city to did my first aid today.
City is quiet, lot of shops closed n bugger all people around.
Onway back i ducked into millers rd kfc , drive past altona gate n carp park is packed.
Took old geelong rd thru hoppers crossing n bunnings car park park n similiar fir jb hi fi n werribee plaza.

Surly people r taking the **** out of this lockdown.

Frustrating....
Blokes struggle to keep themselves occupied at home without going to bunnings...

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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by purple5ive » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:54 pm

Thats exactly what ive been saying to the guys whining about shutting down fully.
if the tradies stay home, Australia stops!!!!!!!!!!
we will be worse off if everyone stays at home.
im also in the construction industry and am still working.

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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by Boonanza » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:55 pm

laneends wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:47 pm
Boonanza wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:34 pm
I am in the Construction industry and it is still business as usual but unlike reported they are not practicing social distancing and I think there should be a lockdown. What does everyone else think?

Herald Sun Article Today!

BUILDING INDUSTRY SHUTDOWN WOULD BE DEVASTATING
Building employers and unions have warned the state government to expect economic devastation if the industry shuts down due to coronavirus.

In an unprecedented double act, Master Builders Victoria and the CFMEU have written to Premier Daniel Andrews pleading for construction to continue.

The industrial enemies also want state and federal governments to ensure that contractors are not punished with liquidated damages if projects are delayed due to the virus.

Last week, the City of Melbourne announced extended construction times for the inner city on weekdays and weekends to help compensate for social distancing measures on work sites. But the industry is clearly concerned it could be forced to shut down if government lockdowns are extended.

A group of industry associations and unions have co-operated to create a 20-page document of guidelines for employers and workers to deal with potential COVID-19 threats.

MBV chief executive Rebecca Casson and CFMEU state secretary John Setka have urged Mr Andrews to work inside the National Cabinet to ensure the building industry was kept open.

“We are firmly of the view that if our industry shuts down, the economic knock-on effects would be devastating on a scale that would dwarf what we have seen to date,” their letter said.

“As you will know, our industry accounts for 12.7 per cent of gross state product and 45 per cent of our state’s tax revenue (and we need you) to assist our economy now and to make sure it is ready to ramp up quickly as we hit recovery mode.”

Ms Casson and Mr Setka said social distancing on sites was slowing work down.
building sites are a hot bed for carona risks. Imagine the young apprentice standing up and saying no when being in a position of being too close to someone else....I have no doubt they are being put at risk out fear of not speaking up and loosing there jobs. Many jobs simply cant be done at social distancing, and constant double handing of materials...

Most construction jobs are not essential to be done immediately, its mainly about keeping people in work, thats the real issue
Totally agree the CFMEU are just trying to save themselves. Most of the commercial sites in the city are student accomodation for foreign students who won't be coming back anytime soon.
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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by purple5ive » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:56 pm

laneends wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:47 pm
Boonanza wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:34 pm
I am in the Construction industry and it is still business as usual but unlike reported they are not practicing social distancing and I think there should be a lockdown. What does everyone else think?

Herald Sun Article Today!

BUILDING INDUSTRY SHUTDOWN WOULD BE DEVASTATING
Building employers and unions have warned the state government to expect economic devastation if the industry shuts down due to coronavirus.

In an unprecedented double act, Master Builders Victoria and the CFMEU have written to Premier Daniel Andrews pleading for construction to continue.

The industrial enemies also want state and federal governments to ensure that contractors are not punished with liquidated damages if projects are delayed due to the virus.

Last week, the City of Melbourne announced extended construction times for the inner city on weekdays and weekends to help compensate for social distancing measures on work sites. But the industry is clearly concerned it could be forced to shut down if government lockdowns are extended.

A group of industry associations and unions have co-operated to create a 20-page document of guidelines for employers and workers to deal with potential COVID-19 threats.

MBV chief executive Rebecca Casson and CFMEU state secretary John Setka have urged Mr Andrews to work inside the National Cabinet to ensure the building industry was kept open.

“We are firmly of the view that if our industry shuts down, the economic knock-on effects would be devastating on a scale that would dwarf what we have seen to date,” their letter said.

“As you will know, our industry accounts for 12.7 per cent of gross state product and 45 per cent of our state’s tax revenue (and we need you) to assist our economy now and to make sure it is ready to ramp up quickly as we hit recovery mode.”

Ms Casson and Mr Setka said social distancing on sites was slowing work down.
building sites are a hot bed for carona risks. Imagine the young apprentice standing up and saying no when being in a position of being too close to someone else....I have no doubt they are being put at risk out fear of not speaking up and loosing there jobs. Many jobs simply cant be done at social distancing, and constant double handing of materials...

Most construction jobs are not essential to be done immediately, its mainly about keeping people in work, thats the real issue
Exactly mate. :tu: :tu: :tu:

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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by rb85 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:04 pm

laneends wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:47 pm
Boonanza wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:34 pm
I am in the Construction industry and it is still business as usual but unlike reported they are not practicing social distancing and I think there should be a lockdown. What does everyone else think?

Herald Sun Article Today!

BUILDING INDUSTRY SHUTDOWN WOULD BE DEVASTATING
Building employers and unions have warned the state government to expect economic devastation if the industry shuts down due to coronavirus.

In an unprecedented double act, Master Builders Victoria and the CFMEU have written to Premier Daniel Andrews pleading for construction to continue.

The industrial enemies also want state and federal governments to ensure that contractors are not punished with liquidated damages if projects are delayed due to the virus.

Last week, the City of Melbourne announced extended construction times for the inner city on weekdays and weekends to help compensate for social distancing measures on work sites. But the industry is clearly concerned it could be forced to shut down if government lockdowns are extended.

A group of industry associations and unions have co-operated to create a 20-page document of guidelines for employers and workers to deal with potential COVID-19 threats.

MBV chief executive Rebecca Casson and CFMEU state secretary John Setka have urged Mr Andrews to work inside the National Cabinet to ensure the building industry was kept open.

“We are firmly of the view that if our industry shuts down, the economic knock-on effects would be devastating on a scale that would dwarf what we have seen to date,” their letter said.

“As you will know, our industry accounts for 12.7 per cent of gross state product and 45 per cent of our state’s tax revenue (and we need you) to assist our economy now and to make sure it is ready to ramp up quickly as we hit recovery mode.”

Ms Casson and Mr Setka said social distancing on sites was slowing work down.
building sites are a hot bed for carona risks. Imagine the young apprentice standing up and saying no when being in a position of being too close to someone else....I have no doubt they are being put at risk out fear of not speaking up and loosing there jobs. Many jobs simply cant be done at social distancing, and constant double handing of materials...

Most construction jobs are not essential to be done immediately, its mainly about keeping people in work, thats the real issue
Spot on guys and whilst building industry groups and unions want work to keep going perhaps they could revert to a 36 hr shift introduce shifts and employ more people but they won’t because of the communist model of the industry
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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by Boonanza » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:07 pm

purple5ive wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:54 pm
Thats exactly what ive been saying to the guys whining about shutting down fully.
if the tradies stay home, Australia stops!!!!!!!!!!
we will be worse off if everyone stays at home.
im also in the construction industry and am still working.
I'm sure it would have an impact on the Economy but what is the impact on the rest of the state health wise? There has already been cases onsite but being kept very hush hush :dn:
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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by purple5ive » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:13 pm

Boonanza wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:07 pm
purple5ive wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:54 pm
Thats exactly what ive been saying to the guys whining about shutting down fully.
if the tradies stay home, Australia stops!!!!!!!!!!
we will be worse off if everyone stays at home.
im also in the construction industry and am still working.
I'm sure it would have an impact on the Economy but what is the impact on the rest of the state health wise? There has already been cases onsite but being kept very hush hush :dn:
its definitely a trade off mate!
we have had 2 sites shut down already, its Russian Roulette everyday pretty much.

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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by laneends » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:22 pm

Irony is our local council this week is full speed ahead installing new flash playgrounds and workout stations in the local parks...not exactly a priority at the moment..How teasing for the local families and toddlers though..

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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by Truedogz » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:23 pm

I'm seeing the same stuff and it is pretty concerning. Just look at the pictures from Bondi and even around Melbourne of people not taking it seriously.

Yes both federal and state governments are trying to keep as many businesses going as possible while bringing virus cases down and are doing MUCH better than expected. But those industries that are still going need to follow the protocols to do their bit.

I was in Bunnings today where they have restrictions of 4 people per isle and yelling at people to get out. Whole families are coming in as if nothing has changed. Bunnings are trying to do the right thing.

It is frustrating when we really have a chance of controlling this thing and through stupidity we might blow it.

How much will people whinge is if all industry shuts down completely and people are really locked in their houses?

On current projections we don't need a total shutdown but stupidity might change that.

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Re: Corona virus part 2

Post by Boonanza » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:25 pm

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its definitely a trade off mate!
we have had 2 sites shut down already, its Russian Roulette everyday pretty much.
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I think the state Government is holding out for Easter to do a 2 week lockdown as the Union sites are closed for 10 days anyway and would have less of an impact. Time will tell...
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