Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by cobby » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:37 am

Sinsemilla wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 am
cobby wrote:
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Sinsemilla wrote:
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Gultch78 wrote:
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Sinsemilla wrote:
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I'd go the stabi. Safer than the other boats. Setup well for fishing, Alloy so way less maintenance and will last longer than a fiberglass boat. Probably better resale value as well.

Cheers, Anth
What evidence do you have to support these comments good fibreglass boats are sought after and rebuilt, repainted, repaired for decades unlike alloy and hold there value
You'll never get rot in a alloy boat and there is heaps of fibreglass boats on the market. Not so many stabicrafts. Plus stabi's have a good reputation.

I got a glass boat.. I love redoing silicone and gel coat and polishing..

You just said it yourself.. glass boats need to be rebuilt after years. Not alloy boats!
Umm yeah they definently do. Worse so with differing metals used on fixings, boats pushed to their limits or just poor maintenance.

Either people I know are stupidly rough with boats and that's the reason why the 'worst' 2 hulls are a Caribbean Belmont and a Swiftcraft Explorer, every alloy boat except the 1 used purely as a whiting basher either pitted badly that became leaks or completely split sheet welds and snapped other stress bearing welds in varying places. Quintrex, Stacer, Tabs, Stessl... All replaced with Haines Hunters old and new, Signatures, Edencrafts, Bass Straits, Formula 21s, Cootacraft and even a new Northbank....

That said, I'd still buy a Stabi 1430 Explorer if they were 10k cheaper
What alloy boats are you talking about cobby? That's terrible.. I've never heard of such things. Most charter operators use alloy boats for a reason. A proper built alloy boat should last a lifetime.

and even in my experience with small alloy boats, i have a 3.8m Savage Jabiru that's nearly 30 years old, the hull has cracked from smashing logs at full noise in the rivers and a bit of JB weld or silicone will get you out of the **** no worries.

I don't Quintrex, Stacer, Tabs, Stessl should be put in the same league as Extreme, Stabis and White pointers..
They were all marketed as offshore boats, the smallest failure being a 560 Quintrex runabout, the Tabs 6.10 was the worst with repeated cracks and sheet splits... It's even called ocean series! The only ones that didn't fail is a backcrusher 560 (used only as a whiting rig) and a 620, which was replaced by a Bass Strait 600 in very short time

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by cobby » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:40 am

And like bowl said, Extreme and white pointer were non existent, Stabi were hideously ugly and werr overpriced even 15 years ago...

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by Sinsemilla » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:14 pm

Sorry fellas i didn't know we were talking about 30-40 years ago..

Better buy a Haines Robbie or else you'll get linched!

Cheers, Anth

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by bowl » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:18 pm

Sinsemilla wrote:
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Sorry fellas i didn't know we were talking about 30-40 years ago..

Better buy a Haines Robbie or else you'll get linched!

Cheers, Anth
So you were talking about boat lasting the test time...yeah
People were just asking were ur evidence based
Comments come from....?
To many boats kayak, helicopter , catch a fish,catch a fish

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by bowl » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:34 pm

To many boats kayak, helicopter , catch a fish,catch a fish

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by Bugatti » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:03 pm

Robbie1950 wrote:
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I have been recently looking to possibly upgrade my boat to something larger. Storage is the biggest issue for me so ideally I would like a boat around the 5.65m range as it can still fit in a standard garage.

Any feedback is much appreciated. :ch:
Sinsemilla wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:14 pm
Sorry fellas i didn't know we were talking about 30-40 years ago..

Better buy a Haines Robbie or else you'll get linched!

Cheers, Anth


Hi Robbie

The Old "Team Glass" v "Team Ali" (Anth highlighted the emotiveness of the topic)

Probably not what you had intended as advice but it always seems to pop up.


Team Glass (which I am part of but not that I advocate glass)
* More expensive (re-sale is a perspective thing because you still have to outlay a larger amount to get back a perceived higher value on re-sale)
* Heavier Boat, which means bigger motor, bigger towing vehicle, more towing issues.
* Higher running costs.
* Smoother ride and on anchor.
* Costs more to repair, especially wood rot.
* etc etc


Team Ali
* Cheaper to buy
* Lighter Boat, which means smaller motor, family car can likely tow it, easier to tow
* Lower running costs
* Rougher ride and also on anchor
* Cheaper to repair
* etc etc


Yes, Pros use mostly Ali's but Sea Rescues use more Glass

Also who really keeps a Boat for ever , , , , so really long term issues , , , , are they really at play.


You'd know , , , , pick a Boat that you like and one that you can put up with it's short-comings , , , , Haines Hunter 565R (or offshore) & the Stabicraft 1850 Supercab as an example.


I don't know either or how to answer your specific question.

Hopefully someone better can :tu:


Cheers, Bug

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by frozenpod » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Yes they are ridiculously expensive. There is zero point buying a plate boat under 6m as they cost more than glass and perform no where near as well.

The bennifit of less towing weight is not normally a factor until you get to 6m plus size.

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by ducky » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:27 pm

Old school cool is the go. Depending on the cashola and time you’ve got a rebuilt old girl will last forever. Turn more heads and ultimately be more unique than a new plate boat.

For example. Jon Maslin’s 565 would put a horn on a jellyfish.

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

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Re: Stabicraft / Bar Crusher V's Haines Hunter

Post by purple5ive » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:46 pm

The easy way to fix the issue.
Do you like a noisy boat (alloy) or a nice quiet one.(glass or even poly)

Defenitely pros and cons to each one.

Atleast you have the towing and storage taken care of, thats the first few hurdles..

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