cobby wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:46 am
Kimtown wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:58 pm
cobby wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:50 pm
Kimtown wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:58 pm
cobby wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:25 am
What’s your angle here Cobby?
I don’t remember refuting that this specific incident shouldn’t be looked at, so I’m not really too sure what agenda you’re trying to push...
You can deflect it however you like, but there is no way anyone can argue that Richmond players aren’t protected species, both by umpiring officials and the MRP and tribunal.
That whinging about the Cotchin high tackle is ridiculous. It was high, and he hit Jones hard. Jones was trying to take the advantage which is why no 50 was called, it would be a secondary free kick 5m to the right of the initial free. You'd have 5 to 10 players a week suspended for high tackles if you wanted to start going down that angle. And Jones throwing an arm out in a weak attempt to tackle would also be one of those suspended, instead neither of those 2 were even looked at.
As for Lynch, there was less force used putting the knee on Howard or pressure holding it there than what is need to close a bail arm on a reel. There's no other possible charge aside from misconduct and its fine because of that, even if it was sent to the tribunal.
That’s cool but you’re looking at it with a fairly bias perspective
The way I see it, Cotchin has a knack of escaping MRP scrutiny, especially in important finals games. Michael Christian set a precedence last week by suspending Ben Long for “potential to cause severe injury” yet doesn’t even look at Cotchins tackle. This could have been far worse. That was more than just your regular “high tackle”, he legit supplexed him, it was pretty much the best possible result for Jones, it should have been a lot worse than it was.
FWIW Jones closed fist to Bakers face should also have been cited, probably choosing not to as they would have to look at Cotchins case.
Don’t even get me started on Tom Lynch. He has more lives than a game of super mario. Seriously, take off the black and yellow glasses mate, the rest of the football world can see it for what it is.
Let me guess, 2017 preliminary final, where Shiel went on to play a further 5 minutes of game time and was sat on his arse by Astbury long after the Cotchin hit? Go watch the first quarter of the qualifying final and you'll see Cotchin tackle in the exact same manner, albeit not high.
And Christian did to Long exactly what he's done for years now to any player that's collected the head with a bump. Suspended them. How it's even a discussion point is beyond me. Any bump that's collected the head has been a suspension, including the ridiculousness of suspending players because of the resulting head clash. There's no ifs, no buts. That's the way the AFL have done it for a decade, all due to the POTENTIAL to cause injury. Long is just lucky Mcrae doesn't have a glass jaw otherwise he'd have an extended pre season too. Now show me where a player in the last 20 years has been suspended for a high tackle...
Lynch got done for it. Its a **** look which is why it was even a misconduct charge, but unlike Sicily on Selwood a few years back there was absolutely no force in the action at all. And Sicily only got a week. The rest, well bring up some past examples over the last 5 years aside from Hawkins jumper punch where any player has recieved more than a fine for similar actions.
Players might not have been suspended for a high tackle (lol I’m sure they have, I remember a Barry Hall coat hanger at one point mid 2000s, but for your sake let’s pretend they haven’t) but they have certainly have been suspended for dangerous tackles... this is the usual arm pin style of tackle that’s targeted, however you cannot tell me Cotchins tackle doesn’t meet the same criteria of a dangerous tackle? It’s a head high sling and I have little doubt in my mind that he knew exactly what he was doing. Cotchin is an extremely high IQ player, with insane hand eye co-ordination, you’re telling me for a split second he just clumsily laid the most dangerous high tackle I’ve ever seen? Yeah, nah, I don’t buy it. 100% intention to try and injure Jones illegally and in my book that is the classification of a dirty player.
Like I said, the wider football community see it for what it is, so I’m okay with that. I don’t really feel the need to convince a few tigers fans that their captain is dirty when I already know that he is.
Also Ben Long attempted to pull out of the bump. There was zero intention. You cannot suspend someone for the potential to cause injury 1 week, and then not the next. Regardless of if it’s a bump to the head or not. MRP needs to scrapped