Winches..cables..

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Winches..cables..

Post by bowl » Mon May 27, 2019 4:15 pm

So after another steel cable snapped last week , im deciding between rope cable or winch strap...
Have used winch strap before , but not the rope im undecied which one to go with ???
Any advice be good.. :cheers:
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Re: Winches..cables..

Post by Gultch78 » Mon May 27, 2019 4:25 pm

How old was cable and what type (fibre core, solid core)and which size also what load are you applying to it how heavy is your boat
Did you always wind up cable with a little tension to prevent it crushing and kinking cable
Also where did it break mid cable or at the swage and was it a copper/alloy or stainless ferulle
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Post by bowl » Mon May 27, 2019 4:40 pm

4.5 meter tinny...but the easy guide roller is making the last meter or so hard to winch in..
Broke up near top where it locks onto boat..
Had similiar to this on it..
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Alwats winch it on with tension..
Maybe year n half old cable...
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Re: Winches..cables..

Post by frozenpod » Mon May 27, 2019 4:43 pm

The braid style is the best but also the most expensive.

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Post by bowl » Mon May 27, 2019 4:43 pm

Roller getting squashed by looks of it..
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Re: Winches..cables..

Post by Gultch78 » Mon May 27, 2019 4:49 pm

So year and a half old that probably rules out corrosion being issue 7.5mm sounds pretty heavy for a 4.5 tinny most generic boat winches are 5mm or less
Wire rope quality may be more the issue
I can supply and swage a length of 6mm grade 1770 wire rope to your hook if you want pm me your phone no to discuss further if ya want
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Re: Winches..cables..

Post by bowl » Mon May 27, 2019 5:07 pm

Gultch78 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:49 pm
So year and a half old that probably rules out corrosion being issue 7.5mm sounds pretty heavy for a 4.5 tinny most generic boat winches are 5mm or less
Wire rope quality may be more the issue
I can supply and swage a length of 6mm grade 1770 wire rope to your hook if you want pm me your phone no to discuss further if ya want
Think i had 6meters by 5 ml was bcf one
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Re: Winches..cables..

Post by Bugatti » Mon May 27, 2019 5:34 pm

bowl wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:40 pm

is making the last meter or so hard to winch in

Maybe year n half old cable...

One of the things I would look into, bowl is why is it hard to winch in the last meter or so.

I would have it as a guess that it is here where most of the force and damage is being done to the cable and possibly fatiguing prematurely near the swage.

If you can get the tinnie to easily winch up in this section, that would go a long way to preserving the cable life. Maybe look at moving, modifying the roller (rollers) that are the problem.




Gultch78 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:49 pm
So year and a half old that probably rules out corrosion being issue 7.5mm sounds pretty heavy for a 4.5 tinny most generic boat winches are 5mm or less
Wire rope quality may be more the issue
I can supply and swage a length of 6mm grade 1770 wire rope to your hook if you want pm me your phone no to discuss further if ya want

Well done Gultch, top bloke


Cheers, Bugatti

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Re: Winches..cables..

Post by Bugatti » Mon May 27, 2019 6:38 pm

Bugatti wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 5:34 pm
bowl wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:40 pm

is making the last meter or so hard to winch in

Maybe year n half old cable...

One of the things I would look into, bowl is why is it hard to winch in the last meter or so.

I would have it as a guess that it is here where most of the force and damage is being done to the cable and possibly fatiguing prematurely near the swage.

If you can get the tinnie to easily winch up in this section, that would go a long way to preserving the cable life. Maybe look at moving, modifying the roller (rollers) that are the problem.



Cheers, Bugatti

Sorry bowl, just an addition , , , ,

If it is the last meter that is causing the problems shortening the life of the cable , , , , then if not fixed, it would shorten the life of any new cable/strap/thing as well


Cheers, good luck with it bowl

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Re: Winches..cables..

Post by fishnut » Mon May 27, 2019 7:56 pm

Yea bowl,looks like the roller is being squashed pretty hard can u modify a bit

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