Snapper fishing may be banned for three years in SA

[John Dory]

So we should bring back netters and encourage long lining as well because it was all a big mistake ?
Seems like they are doing it the correct way in SA then after all ?
Another breeding cycle should fix it all up. Job done.

Now you're twisting **** to suit yourself. I merely highlighted how much b******* the gullible sucked up as gospel from the likes of Vrfish, Future Fish and those with vested interest like Raynor and Kramer that flew directly in the face of VFA recruitment surveys that for nearly a decade pointed to low to average spawn rates. How Snapper stocks made an enormous rebound while commercial fishing of both PPB and WP were in full swing. And what little netting actually does to Snapper stocks, while the little thought about commercial practice that actually takes Snapper is entirely exempt from the recent bans in PPB.

If you seriously think the banning of nets from PPB will make anymore than a pooftenth of difference of Snapper stocks in the bay you've got nothing but air in the cavity that should be filled with a brain

Whats a pooftenth?

[Lightningx]

Anth, with me not knowing Victoria intimately (well not Victoria the state) I would say that you guys in a few years are going to have an over fishing effort issue from the other end of the fishing spectrum , , , , from the recreational fishos. And probably may need to modify fishing regulations. A closed spawning season works , , , , as long as it is long enough, which should include the lead up to the spawning season as well. One aspect as to why it didn't work too well here in SA was it wasn't early enough and the aggregations of snapper were dispersed by being pummelled by the pros who followed the schools up the gulf. Spawning is more effective with big aggregations spawning and not pockets of schools here and there , , , , there is even a PIRSA (our governing body) paper on this , , , , but never acted on.

Here in SA the 5 fish allowed between 38cm-60cm in St Vincents Gulf or 10 fish in our other waters , , , , AND 2 fish over 60cm has always in my opinion has been way too much. that's a hideous amount of fish for a recreational to keep.

The over 60cm fish should all be put back as they are the big breeders.


When you think about it, 3 fish under 60cm is enough.

Cheers, Bugz

I'm with you on the 3 fish under 60cm P/P is enough and a closed period during spawning which is long enough to let them do their thing.

I think this will also deter those snapper only fisherman that don't fish at all until "snapper season" and then go out killing fish 3-4 times a week, sometimes bagging out on each outing with multiple people on their boats.. What the hell can you do with that much snapper meat?

I've had sessions on the snapper getting just under 20 fish in just over an hour.. Kept 2 of them between me and my brother.. Had kingy sessions where I've caught 30 plus kings to 18kgs in 3 days and kept 3 of them between me, my brother and my cousin..

If fishing was about always keeping my bag or for a feed I'd sell my boats, all my gear and be able to buy fish for me and my family for the rest of our lives.. The people that fish that way have got it wrong in my opinion. We need to look after our beautiful environment and our natural resources.

Cheers, Anth

Alot of people are greedy selfish pigs, in all aspects of life unfortunately.

It’s sad but that is very true...

[Yota]

So we should bring back netters and encourage long lining as well because it was all a big mistake ?
Seems like they are doing it the correct way in SA then after all ?
Another breeding cycle should fix it all up. Job done.

Now you're twisting **** to suit yourself. I merely highlighted how much b******* the gullible sucked up as gospel from the likes of Vrfish, Future Fish and those with vested interest like Raynor and Kramer that flew directly in the face of VFA recruitment surveys that for nearly a decade pointed to low to average spawn rates. How Snapper stocks made an enormous rebound while commercial fishing of both PPB and WP were in full swing. And what little netting actually does to Snapper stocks, while the little thought about commercial practice that actually takes Snapper is entirely exempt from the recent bans in PPB.

If you seriously think the banning of nets from PPB will make anymore than a pooftenth of difference of Snapper stocks in the bay you've got nothing but air in the cavity that should be filled with a brain

No worries Cobby, lets not get heated or personal.
I’m happy to admit I’m obviously no expert.
The information I read and posted was interesting to me. How it relates to the SA predicament will be interesting.
And I’m very aware that what I see and hear on the box or the net from people or groups can be biased one way or another.

Cheers
Jamie.

[Bugatti]

Whats a pooftenth?

Come on guys, we all know what a pooftenth is.

It's that little bit extra long we wished our Snapper (or any fish) were to make legal length.

It's , , , , "Oh, come on, just one pooftenth more"

Cheers, Bugatti , just one pooftenth away from being normal

[purple5ive]

Where in the hell did you manage to find one that's just right uncle bill.. :thumbsup:

[cobby]

So we should bring back netters and encourage long lining as well because it was all a big mistake ?
Seems like they are doing it the correct way in SA then after all ?
Another breeding cycle should fix it all up. Job done.

Now you're twisting **** to suit yourself. I merely highlighted how much b******* the gullible sucked up as gospel from the likes of Vrfish, Future Fish and those with vested interest like Raynor and Kramer that flew directly in the face of VFA recruitment surveys that for nearly a decade pointed to low to average spawn rates. How Snapper stocks made an enormous rebound while commercial fishing of both PPB and WP were in full swing. And what little netting actually does to Snapper stocks, while the little thought about commercial practice that actually takes Snapper is entirely exempt from the recent bans in PPB.

If you seriously think the banning of nets from PPB will make anymore than a pooftenth of difference of Snapper stocks in the bay you've got nothing but air in the cavity that should be filled with a brain

No worries Cobby, lets not get heated or personal.
I’m happy to admit I’m obviously no expert.
The information I read and posted was interesting to me. How it relates to the SA predicament will be interesting.
And I’m very aware that what I see and hear on the box or the net from people or groups can be biased one way or another.

Cheers
Jamie.

Wasn't a personal attack at all so apologies if it came across as such. It gets somewhat annoying the sheep that hold up a ******** as the messiah spruiking gospel all because he lucked into a government paid position when all science is contrary to just about everything he says

[cobby]

So we should bring back netters and encourage long lining as well because it was all a big mistake ?
Seems like they are doing it the correct way in SA then after all ?
Another breeding cycle should fix it all up. Job done.

Now you're twisting **** to suit yourself. I merely highlighted how much b******* the gullible sucked up as gospel from the likes of Vrfish, Future Fish and those with vested interest like Raynor and Kramer that flew directly in the face of VFA recruitment surveys that for nearly a decade pointed to low to average spawn rates. How Snapper stocks made an enormous rebound while commercial fishing of both PPB and WP were in full swing. And what little netting actually does to Snapper stocks, while the little thought about commercial practice that actually takes Snapper is entirely exempt from the recent bans in PPB.

If you seriously think the banning of nets from PPB will make anymore than a pooftenth of difference of Snapper stocks in the bay you've got nothing but air in the cavity that should be filled with a brain

Whats a pooftenth?

**** all, stuff all, bugger all, bees ****. Bug had it in one

[denis barden]

Yota-I like this info
https://www.vrfish.com.au/2018/05/01/re ... r-in-2018/
Cheers Denis

[Bugatti]

No worries Cobby, lets not get heated or personal.
I’m happy to admit I’m obviously no expert.

Cheers
Jamie.

Wasn't a personal attack at all so apologies if it came across as such.

Firstly

Well done Gentlemen, that is very admirable and commendable "Adulting". Nice to see we as a fraternity can have a say, get toey and rein it in too.

So, well done Yota & Cobby

Cheers, Bugatti , , , , proud to be a pretend Victorian

[smile0784]

Anth, with me not knowing Victoria intimately (well not Victoria the state) I would say that you guys in a few years are going to have an over fishing effort issue from the other end of the fishing spectrum , , , , from the recreational fishos. And probably may need to modify fishing regulations. A closed spawning season works , , , , as long as it is long enough, which should include the lead up to the spawning season as well. One aspect as to why it didn't work too well here in SA was it wasn't early enough and the aggregations of snapper were dispersed by being pummelled by the pros who followed the schools up the gulf. Spawning is more effective with big aggregations spawning and not pockets of schools here and there , , , , there is even a PIRSA (our governing body) paper on this , , , , but never acted on.

Here in SA the 5 fish allowed between 38cm-60cm in St Vincents Gulf or 10 fish in our other waters , , , , AND 2 fish over 60cm has always in my opinion has been way too much. that's a hideous amount of fish for a recreational to keep.

The over 60cm fish should all be put back as they are the big breeders.


When you think about it, 3 fish under 60cm is enough.

Cheers, Bugz

I'm with you on the 3 fish under 60cm P/P is enough and a closed period during spawning which is long enough to let them do their thing.

I think this will also deter those snapper only fisherman that don't fish at all until "snapper season" and then go out killing fish 3-4 times a week, sometimes bagging out on each outing with multiple people on their boats.. What the hell can you do with that much snapper meat?

I've had sessions on the snapper getting just under 20 fish in just over an hour.. Kept 2 of them between me and my brother.. Had kingy sessions where I've caught 30 plus kings to 18kgs in 3 days and kept 3 of them between me, my brother and my cousin..

If fishing was about always keeping my bag or for a feed I'd sell my boats, all my gear and be able to buy fish for me and my family for the rest of our lives.. The people that fish that way have got it wrong in my opinion. We need to look after our beautiful environment and our natural resources.

Cheers, Anth

Alot of people are greedy selfish pigs, in all aspects of life unfortunately.

It’s sad but that is very true...

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