Looking For a Kayak

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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by cheaterparts » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:59 am

croe04 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:48 pm
Also worth considering visibility, I deliberately bought a bright yellow yak so that I can be seen easily. I wouldn't go buying blue/deep green/black yaks because its harder for people to spot you on the water. Weight is also a thing to consider, yaks that weigh 30kgs+ are not only going to suck to transport but will be slow, and make it harder for you to get places quick when you need to.
A lot of these cheapo kayaks come with a gimmicky 'stadium seat', which is just mimicking a hobie's seat. All this does is cause the yak to be more unstable, consequentally making it wider, which makes it heaveir and slower. Not something you want.
This became a bit of a buyer beware when coming to buying a kayak, but if you wanna look into some more advice on what models to pick based on specific factors, you should read this thread - http://www.fishing-victoria.com/viewto ... ilit=kayak
I posted it a while back while I was looking for a yak and heaps of helpful advice was posted that will probably help your decision too.

cheers.
I have to agree Visibility on the water is a must -- boating guys have enough problems seeing us at the best of times - make that chore as easy as possible
I still don't get the camo colours or dull colours - bright yellow - white - orange or anything that stands out on the water is the go and fish don't care what colour your kayak is

Weight does make a difference just leaving all the fishing gear off the kayak and paddling it you feel the difference in drag
and thats on a well designed kayak - most cheapies are a poor design to start with
it takes a fair amount of playing around with design to get the hull drag down and even small amounts of extra weight changes the drag quite a bit

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When designing this fast sea kayak it was surprising the difference a few kg mean to drag figures
before the race that I built it for I even dieted to reduce my weight and this kayak at 575 meters long weighed 18 kg ( still a bit heavy I would do better next time )

and seats - yes lift the centre of gravity what a great idea ( not ) this makes a kayak less stable both primary and secondary so to over come this lets just make the kayak wider and worse to paddle

wide kayaks have more drag - more windage ( harder to paddle in a wind ) and some thing most dont think of it makes it harder to get a good paddle stroke
this all makes the paddling part of kayak fishing a lot worse
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Gummy shark 128 Cm - Elephant fish 85 Cm - Snapper 91 Cm - KG Whiting 49 Cm - Flathead 55 Cm - Garfish 47 Cm - Silver Trevally 40 Cm - Long Tail Tuna 86 Cm - snook 64 Cm - Couta 71 Cm - Sth Calamari 44 Cm hood - Cobia 117 cm


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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by 4liters » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:18 pm

A prowler just went up for sale too, no idea what they want for it but they’re a nice design
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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by mingle » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:52 am

There's a bargain Wavedance Kingfisher with cart and paddle on Facebook atm for a mere $325, which seems a bargain...

If you're on FB, go to market place and search for "Kayak 4.1m wavedance"

No connection to me btw...

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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by Matthewsfisher » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:59 pm

There is kayak available for your requirement under $500

Please check this kayak https://www.kayaks2fish.com/2.2m-nextge ... -newcastle Fishing Kayaks

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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by 4liters » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:01 pm

Matthewsfisher wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:59 pm
There is kayak available for your requirement under $500

Please check this kayak https://www.kayaks2fish.com/2.2m-nextge ... -newcastle Fishing Kayaks
2.2m is far too short for fishing in the bay
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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by Tim399 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:07 pm

Matthewsfisher wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:59 pm
There is kayak available for your requirement under $500

Please check this kayak https://www.kayaks2fish.com/2.2m-nextge ... -newcastle Fishing Kayaks
If anyone is looking for a kayak for anything other than skinny creek bashing DO NOT buy this kayak. A small bit of chop and headwind would quickly ruin your experience in a kayak this short. At 2.2m long it goes against all the advise given by experienced kayakers in this thread.
By the way this kayak is not worth the rrp $699 either.

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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by croe04 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:42 pm

did someone really make an account to flog a 7 foot long kayak in broken english? jeez.
seems like some shady marketing tactic from good old kayaks2fish

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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by 4liters » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:23 pm

croe04 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:42 pm
did someone really make an account to flog a 7 foot long kayak in broken english? jeez.
seems like some shady marketing tactic from good old kayaks2fish
They go hard with the marketing. The endless ‘sale’ (complete with a countdown timer that resets each day lol), if you search for kayaks you’ll get k2f ads on websites for weeks, I reckon there’s been fake accounts posting recommendations on Facebook as well- for a while there was a spate of randoms saying they were getting into kayaking and thought a k2f yak looked the bomb and what did everyone else think, and like clockwork there’s be half a dozen flogs claiming they were the bees knees, without going into a lot of detail. Then after a while it stopped happening. For a few weeks there were a bunch of people randomly posting a photo of a k2f kayak on the yak fishing groups on Facebook, no context, just a photo.

At the end of the day they’re no different to any other cheap eBay pool toy (literally no different in some cases - they’re mostly just a generic mass produced Chinese piece of crap that anyone can import); if you’re careful with the weather, don’t over load them, and don’t try anything overly ambitious you can have a nice day on the water and catch more fish than you would landbased. But in my experience (and I’ve had a bit), if you can afford to go with the better designed kayaks, they’re safer, more user friendly and more enjoyable on the water.

The way I see it is your kayak is all that’s keeping you out of the water, and the only thing that’s getting you back on dry land. Most people are limited with what they can afford but if you’re not getting the safest yak that falls within your budget you’re not putting much value on keeping out of the water or getting back on dry land.
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Re: Looking For a Kayak

Post by croe04 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:39 pm

4liters wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:23 pm
I reckon there’s been fake accounts posting recommendations on Facebook as well- for a while there was a spate of randoms saying they were getting into kayaking and thought a k2f yak looked the bomb and what did everyone else think, and like clockwork there’s be half a dozen flogs claiming they were the bees knees, without going into a lot of detail.
I've been seeing that so much to the point where its starting to genuinely irritate me. On any facebook kayaking group whenever someone asks for recommendations all these kayaks2fish champions come crawling out of the woodwork to rant and rave about how great their cheap as kayaks are, how they're so stable and can handle quote '15-20knt winds', and spam pictures of their 'siq setups' of these 2.7m pool toys with a pair of cheap plastic outriggers and some lowrance stickers.
I've also been hearing about how the 2.9m kayaks by berkley sold at bcf are filling with inches of water and in some cases even sinking when their supposed weight limit is 170kg, not helped by the fact that these newbie kayakers have no idea what a bilge or a bailer is.

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